tools for Crawling popular forum/bulletin board software [closed] - python

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I've started writing a crawler to crawl vbulletin boards. However, I am not a web programmer (json api's I can do, but that isn't really web-crawling), and as such I do not know what the best way to crawl is, and what tools are available.
I am more than capable of writing the crawler, but the I find the underlying HTML very irregular, and so I don't want to be a victim of the structure of the HTML changing in a newer version of vbulletin.
I'm writing an interface using pycurl and beautiful soup. However, is there a better way to do this, are there any good crawlers already available for vbulletin ? (language is not a concern). A meta forum crawler (works with more than one forum type) would be even better.
If you cannot suggest one, could you advise me, if you have the experience, from what I should expect from the stability of the underlying HTML, should I worry about a new version of vbulletin breaking my crawler ?
Perhaps there is a better way to extract a vbulletin dataset ?

Having HTML change is an inherit issue with webcrawling. That is why it should only be an absolute last resort. Maintaining crawlers can be a huge task, as you have seen, because HTML can change daily and there are no guarentees.
Because the data that is usually being searched for is uniform, scrapy is an excellent choice.
http://doc.scrapy.org/en/0.14/index.html
It uses xpath to select elements, which is relatively easy to mainatin imo.
Even if there is a vbulletin specific scraper it is still dependent on HTML which can break at will. Because vbulletin is a platform you are probably pretty well off scraping it. I would think HTML would only change on version updates which shouldn't be that often.
Does the mobile API provide you with any functionality you need?
https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/content.php/367-API-Overview, I guess this depends on per site vbulletin setup.

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I am confused as to how APIs work with django in general. I am looking to get started but am a bit confused where to start. I am fairly new to django but have mastered most of the basics.
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Scraping html WITHOUT uniquie identifiers using python [closed]

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I would like to design an algorithm using python that scrapes thousands of pages like this one and this one, gathers all the data and inserts it into a MySQL database. The script will be run on a weekly or bi-weekly basis to update the database of any new information added to each individual page.
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2nd thought:
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I've got some basic understanding of Python and Perl scripting. Can someone point me in the right direction in either of those languages to accomplish what i'm looking to do, or if it's easier to accomplish in another language what would that be?
Apologies if my stated goal is too broad.
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I have done both for a webservice I maintain, and they work nice.
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I have a very I/O intensive task (it crawls webpages). I want to make this task available via a web API and built some JavaScript+HTML interface on top of it. And I want to do it in Python, since I already have a set of Python scripts implementing this task.
Now I'm looking for a Python web framework to do this. What web framework can you recommend for a very I/O intensive web page?
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