I am a web backend developer. In the past, I've used a lot of Python and specifically django to create custom APIs to serve data, in JSON for instance, to web frontends.
Now, I am facing the task of developing a mobile backend that needs to provides services such as push notifications, geolocating etc. I am aware of the existing mBaaS providers which could definitely address a lot of the issues with the task at hand, however, the project requires a lot of custom backend code, async tasks, algorithms to perform calculations on the data that in response trigger additional behavior, as well as an extensive back office.
Looking at the features of the popular mBaaS provider, I feel like they are not able to meet all my needs, however it would be nice to use some of their features such as push notifications, instead of developing my own. Am I completely mistaken about mBaaS providers? Is this sort of hybrid approach even possible?
Thanks!
There are a ton of options out there. Personally, I'm still looking for the holy grail of mBaaS providers. I've tried Parse, DreamFactory, and most recently Azure Mobility Services.
All three are great getting started from PoC to v1, but the devil is always in the details. There are a few details to watch out for:
You sacrifice control and for simplicity. Stay in the lanes and things should work. The moment you want to do something else is when complexity creeps in.
You are at the mercy of their infrastructure. Yes -- even Amazon and Azure go down from time to time. Note -- Dreamfactory is a self-hosted solution.
You are locked into their platform. Any extra code customizations
you make with their hooks (ie - Parse's "CloudCode" and Azure's API
scripts) will most likely not port to another platform.
Given the learning curve and tradeoffs involved I think you should just play the strong hand you already have. Why not host an Django app on Heroku? Add on DjangoRestFramework and you basically can get a mBaas up and running in less than a day.
Heroku has plenty of third party providers for things like Push notifications, Authentication mechanisms, and even search engines (Elasticsearch).
All that is required is to drop the right "pip install" code into your controllers and you are off an running.
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I'm tasked with creating a web app (I think?) for my job that will tracker something in our system. It'll be an internal tool that staff uses to keep track of the status of one of the things we do. It should look like trello, with cards that drag from step to step. That frontend exists, but my job is to make the system update when the cards are dragged. This requires using an API in Python and isn't that complicated to grab from/update. I have no idea how to put all of this together. My job is almost completely nontechnical and there's no one internally who knows what I'm doing except for me. I'm in so over my head here and have no idea where to begin. Is this something I should deploy on Elastic Beanstalk? EC2? How do I tie this together and put it somewhere?
Are you trying to pull in live data from Trello or from your companies own internal project management tool?
An EC2 might be useful, but honestly, it may be completely unnecessary if your company has its own servers. An EC2 is basically just a collection of rental computers to help with scaling. I have never used beanstalk so my input would be useless there.
From what I can assume from the question, you could have a python script running to pull from the API and make the changes without an EC2.
First thing you should do is gather as much information about what the end product should look like. From your question, I have the feeling that you have only a vague idea of what the stakeholders want. Don't be afraid to ask more clarification about an unclear task. It's better to spend 30 minutes discussing and taking note than to show the end-product after a month and realizing that's not what your boss/team wanted.
Question I would Ask
Who is going to be using this app? (technical or non-technical person)
For what purpose is this being developed?
Does it need to be on the web or can it be used locally?
How many users need to have access to this application?
Are we handling sensitive information with this application?
Will this need to be augmented with other functionality at some point?
This is just a sample of what I would ask, during the conversation with the stakeholder a lot more will pop up for sure.
What I think you have to do
You need to make a monitoring system for the tasks that need to be done by your development team (like a Kanban)
What I think you already have
A frontend with the card that are draggable to each bin. I also assume that you can create a new card and delete one in the frontend. The frontend is most likely written in React, Angular or Vue.js. You might also have no frontend framework (a mix of jQuery and vanilla js), but usually frontend developper end up picking a framework of sort to help the development.
A backend API in Python (in Flask or with Django-rest-framework most likely) that is communicating with a SQL database like postgresql or a Document database like MongoDB.
I'm making a lot of assumption here, but your aim should be to understand the technology you will be working with in order to check which hosting would work best. For instance, if the database that is setup is a MySQL database you might have some trouble with some hosting provider.
What I think you are missing
Currently the frontend and the backend don't communicate to each other. When you drag a card it won't persist if you refresh the page. Also, all of this is sitting in your computer and cannot be used by any one from your staff. You need to first connect the frontend with the backend so that the application has persistance. Then you need to deploy this application somewhere so that it is reachable by your staff.
What I would do is first work locally to make sure that the layer of persistance is working. This imply having the API server, the frontend server and the database server running simultaneously on your computer to develop. You should then fetch data from the API to know which cards are there in the database and then create them visually in your frontend at the right spot.
When you drop a card to a new spot after having dragging it should trigger a POST request to your API server in order to update the status of this particular card (look at the documentation of your API to check what you need to send).
The server should be sending back an updated version of the cards status if the POST request was sucessful, so your application should then just redraw the card at the right spot (it won't make a difference for you since they are already at the right spot and your frontend framework will most likely won't act on this change since the state hasn't changed). That's all I would do for that part.
I would then move to the deployment phase to make sure that whatever you did locally can still work online. I would use Heroku to start instead of jumping directly to AWS. Heroku is a service built on top of AWS which manage a lot of the complexity of AWS for you. This is great for prototyping and it means that when your stuff is ready you can migrate to AWS easily and be confident that a setup exist to make your app work. You might also be tied up to your company servers, which is another thing I would ask to the stakeholder (i.e. where can I put this application and where I can't put it).
The flow for a frontend + api + database application on Heroku is usually as follow. You create a github repo for your frontend (make it private) and you create an app on Heroku that will watch this repository for changes. It will re-deploy the application for you when it sees a change at a specific subdomain of Heroku hosting. You will need to configure some procfiles that will tell Heroku what to do with a given application type. This is where you need to double check what frontend you are using since that might change the procfiles used. It's most likely a node.js based frontend (React, Angular or Vue) so head over here for the documentation of how to put that online.
You will need to make a repo for the backend also that is separate from the frontend, these two entities are distinct and they only communicate through HTTP request (frontend->backend) and JSON (backend->frontend). You will need to follow the same idea as with the frontend to deploy, head over here.
Once you have these two online, you need to create a database on Heroku. This is done by adding a datastore to your api, head over here. There are some framework specific configuration you need to do to make the API talk to an online database, but then you will need to find that configuration on the framework documentation. The database could also be already up and living on your server, if this is the case you just need to configure your online backend to talk to that particular database at a particular address.
Once all of the above is done, re-test your application to check if you get the same behavior as before. This is a usable MVP, however there are no layer of security. Anyone with the right URL could just fetch your frontend and start messing around with your data.
There is more engineering that need to be done to make this a viable end product. This leads us to my final remark: why you are not using a product like Trello, Jira, or even Github Project? If it is to save some money on not paying for a subscription I think you should factor in the cost of development, security and maintenance of this application.
Hope it helps!
One simple option is Heroku for deploy your API and your frontend application.
Currently I am working on a portal which is exposed to end users. This portal is developed using Python 2.7, Django 1.6 and MySQL.
Now we want to expose this portal as a mobile app. But current design does not support that as templates, views and database are tightly coupled with each other. So we decided to re-architect the whole portal. After some research I found following:
Client side: AngularJS for all client side operations like show data and get data using ajax.
Server side: Rest API exposed to AngularJS. This Rest API can be developed using either Tastypie or Django Rest Framework (still not decided). Rest API will be exposed over Django.
I have few questions:
What you guys think about architecture? Is this is a good or bad design? How it can be improved?
Will performance of portal will go down after adding above layers in architecture?
In the above architecture whether 2 servers should be used to run this (like one for client and other for serving the API's) or one server will be enough. Currently Heroku is used for deployment.
Currently portal is getting 10K hits in a day and it is expected to go to 100K a day in 6 months. Will be happy to provide more information if needed.
If i got an opportunity to architect the portal which you mentioned than i would really love to design the architecture which i have already explained here.
What you guys think about architecture?
This is a common Service Oriented Architecture with decoupled Clients. You just have REST endpoints on your backend, and any Client can consume those endpoints.
You should also think about:
Do you need RESTful service (RESTful == stateless, will you store any state on the server?)
How to scale the service in the future? (this is a legit thing as you already aware of huge traffic increase and assume 2 servers)
How it can be improved?
Use scala instead of python :)
Will performance of portal will go down after adding above layers in architecture?
It depends.
It will get some performance penalty (any additional abtract layer has it's tax), but most probably you won't event notice it. But still, you should measure it using some stress tests.
In the above architecture whether 2 servers should be used to run this (like one for client and other for serving the API's) or one server will be enough. Currently Heroku is used for deployment.
Well, as usual, it depends.
It depends on the usage profile you have right now and on the resources available.
If you are interested in whether the new design will perform better than the old one? - there are a number of parameters.
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This is a good overall approach for the system with different clients.
It will allow you:
Totally decouple mobile app and frontend development from backend development. (It could be different independent teams, outsourceable)
Standardize your API layer (as all clients will consume the same endpoints)
Make you service scalable easier (this includes the separate webserver for static assets and many more).
I decide to write some applications using facebook and django (or even twisted, but it doesn't matter), and now I can't choose appropriate tools. I see there are many API-wrappers writed on Python exists for Facebook:
official, but seems no longer supported Python-SDK
new and actively developed, but seems too new Django-facebook
good old, but not maintained pyfacebook
simple, well-maintaned, but non-documented fandjango
some other very primitive tools
I saw some similar questions here, but I'm noticed that Facebook is periodically introduces big changes into their API and those advices may be already outdated, or may be new libraries appeared.
Also I'd like to know about most significant differences between those libraries. And of course good documentation and tutorials are welcome.
I think Django Facebook is a good choice for you. But my opinion is biased. I've written it for my startup Fashiolista.com and we run it in production. (Quite huge, so most edge cases have been resolved)
Django Facebook also include OpenFacebook, which is a python api client to the open graph protocol. It's the only python client I know which is fully up to date and actively maintained.
Have a look at:
https://github.com/tschellenbach/Django-facebook
PS.
Just released some new decorators which make it very simple to get started. These decorators are indeed very new and caused some bugs in the past days. The project itself is already a year old (since the open graph api was released) and otherwise quite stable.
http://www.mellowmorning.com/
The answer really depends on what it is you want to achieve as those APIs are pretty different.
pyfacebook - is for the older legacy API.
python-sdk - is for the "new" opengraph protocol (I wouldn't say its no longer supported as its just a thin wrapper over the facebook opengraph protocol, so supports all the new features that facebook provide instantly w/out needing dev work on the lib).
django-facebook - is a higher level than python-sdk and helps you to add facebook connection features to your site and also seems to pave the way to creating apps that live "inside" facebook rather than just helping sites that live outside facebook to get access to facebook data.
Never heard of fandjango and github seems to be down at the moment so can't comment on that.
If you just want to add user-login using facebook then something like django-socialauth might work out well for you.
If you want to start exploring the social graph then python-sdk is the way to go.
I'd also check to see if the functions you want are supported by the opengraph protocol, its improved over the last year but there is the odd thing it frustratingly doesn't support whereas the legacy api does support...
The best documentation is facebook itself, check out the graph-explorer - it's pretty fascinating...
It depends what you are trying to do. I had the same problem and ended up using django-social-auth , which lets you log in via Facebook and many other social networks.It also lets you extract the token from those networks and then use it.
For the facebook specific stuff, I use facebook-sdk, but since you have something managing the tokens, you could really replace it with any library if yours become outdated in upcoming years . It also means you can add more social networks later on.
I'd like to ask you about your experiences in developing facebook applications in Python. Which of the popular web frameworks for this language you think best suits this purpose? I know "best" is a very subjective word, so I'm specifically interested in the following:
Most reusable libraries. For example one might want to automatically create accounts for new logged in facebook users, but at the same time provide an alternative username + password logging functionality. I need authentication to fit into this nicely.
Facebook applications tend to differ from CMS-like sites. They are action intensive. For more complicated use-cases, usually some kind of caching for the data fetched from Open Graph API is required in order to be able to perform some queries on local and facebook data at once (for example join some tables based on friendship relation).
I'd definitely prefer popular solutions. They just seem to be much more stable and better thought through. I've previously developed a facebook application in Grails and I as much as I liked the architecture and the general ideas, the amount of bugs and complication that I ran into was just a little bit too much. Also Groovy is still quite an exotic language to develop in, and this time I'm not going to work on my own.
I'm not new to Python, but definitely new to web development in Python. Though after the experience with Grails and all its twists and turns I doubt Python could really scare me.
I would almost undoubtedly go with Django as the easiest and most popular framework for developing any type of web applications, if there's a need for a full-stack framework.
Specifically, in regards to Django's app universe, it is plentiful with many active applications -- but that has its downfalls too. There's no standard application for any 'one' thing, but there are a few applications that will do basically 90% of all that's needed. Sometimes the code is poorly written, but most of the time, the apps work and do what they are needed to do, so there's almost no need for someone to dive right in to the code.
Narrowing down our options, I have had great luck with Omab's Django-Social-Auth, which was absolutely a snap to integrate. It required 3 variables in my settings.py and I was up and running.
The only issue might be if you do not want to use the django.contrib.auth.User model, but, if you are not thinking about using that, I would think about that decision twice :)
To narrow it down even further, pyfacebook is another option for integrating Facebook. It comes with a djangofb application so it's just drop, add to settings.py and all is well. It even comes with an example Django application as part of the distribution. I've had pretty good luck with this application, but, I still think Omab's much easier to integrate.
Finally, Facebook's own python-sdk is easy to integrate from a raw standpoint, where they just give you access to their APIs using a simple Python API. However, it seems to cater more to the AppEngine folks, so YMMV.
I've used Django for quite some time. As of late I use Jinja2 instead. No particular reason, but it's another option
If you do not want to start on Django now. Try learning Flask(which is comparatively a lot easier to begin than Django) and then start building app with Flask.
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Looking to do a very small, quick 'n dirty side project. I like the fact that the Google App Engine is running on Python with Django built right in - gives me an excuse to try that platform... but my question is this:
Has anyone made use of the app engine for anything other than a toy problem? I see some good example apps out there, so I would assume this is good enough for the real deal, but wanted to get some feedback.
Any other success/failure notes would be great.
I have tried app engine for my small quake watch application
http://quakewatch.appspot.com/
My purpose was to see the capabilities of app engine, so here are the main points:
it doesn't come by default with Django, it has its own web framework which is pythonic has URL dispatcher like Django and it uses Django templates
So if you have Django exp. you will find it easy to use
But you can use any pure python framework and Django can be easily added see
http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/django.html
google-app-engine-django (http://code.google.com/p/google-app-engine-django/) project is excellent and works almost like working on a Django project
You can not execute any long running process on server, what you do is reply to request and which should be quick otherwise appengine will kill it
So if your app needs lots of backend processing appengine is not the best way
otherwise you will have to do processing on a server of your own
My quakewatch app has a subscription feature, it means I had to email latest quakes as they happend, but I can not run a background process in app engine to monitor new quakes
solution here is to use a third part service like pingablity.com which can connect to one of your page and which executes the subscription emailer
but here also you will have to take care that you don't spend much time here
or break task into several pieces
It provides Django like modeling capabilities but backend is totally different but for a new project it should not matter.
But overall I think it is excellent for creating apps which do not need lot of background processing.
Edit:
Now task queues can be used for running batch processing or scheduled tasks
Edit:
after working/creating a real application on GAE for a year, now my opnion is that unless you are making a application which needs to scale to million and million of users, don't use GAE. Maintaining and doing trivial tasks in GAE is a headache due to distributed nature, to avoid deadline exceeded errors, count entities or do complex queries requires complex code, so small complex application should stick to LAMP.
Edit:
Models should be specially designed considering all the transactions you wish to have in future, because entities only in same entity group can be used in a transaction and it makes the process of updating two different groups a nightmare e.g. transfer money from user1 to user2 in transaction is impossible unless they are in same entity group, but making them same entity group may not be best for frequent update purposes....
read this http://blog.notdot.net/2009/9/Distributed-Transactions-on-App-Engine
I am using GAE to host several high-traffic applications. Like on the order of 50-100 req/sec. It is great, I can't recommend it enough.
My previous experience with web development was with Ruby (Rails/Merb). Learning Python was easy. I didn't mess with Django or Pylons or any other framework, just started from the GAE examples and built what I needed out of the basic webapp libraries that are provided.
If you're used to the flexibility of SQL the datastore can take some getting used to. Nothing too traumatic! The biggest adjustment is moving away from JOINs. You have to shed the idea that normalizing is crucial.
Ben
One of the compelling reasons I have come across for using Google App Engine is its integration with Google Apps for your domain. Essentially it allows you to create custom, managed web applications that are restricted to the (controlled) logins of your domain.
Most of my experience with this code was building a simple time/task tracking application. The template engine was simple and yet made a multi-page application very approachable. The login/user awareness api is similarly useful. I was able to make a public page/private page paradigm without too much issue. (a user would log in to see the private pages. An anonymous user was only shown the public page.)
I was just getting into the datastore portion of the project when I got pulled away for "real work".
I was able to accomplish a lot (it still is not done yet) in a very little amount of time. Since I had never used Python before, this was particularly pleasant (both because it was a new language for me, and also because the development was still fast despite the new language). I ran into very little that led me to believe that I wouldn't be able to accomplish my task. Instead I have a fairly positive impression of the functionality and features.
That is my experience with it. Perhaps it doesn't represent more than an unfinished toy project, but it does represent an informed trial of the platform, and I hope that helps.
The "App Engine running Django" idea is a bit misleading. App Engine replaces the entire Django model layer so be prepared to spend some time getting acclimated with App Engine's datastore which requires a different way of modeling and thinking about data.
I used GAE to build http://www.muspy.com
It's a bit more than a toy project but not overly complex either. I still depend on a few issues to be addressed by Google, but overall developing the website was an enjoyable experience.
If you don't want to deal with hosting issues, server administration, etc, I can definitely recommend it. Especially if you already know Python and Django.
I think App Engine is pretty cool for small projects at this point. There's a lot to be said for never having to worry about hosting. The API also pushes you in the direction of building scalable apps, which is good practice.
app-engine-patch is a good layer between Django and App Engine, enabling the use of the auth app and more.
Google have promised an SLA and pricing model by the end of 2008.
Requests must complete in 10 seconds, sub-requests to web services required to complete in 5 seconds. This forces you to design a fast, lightweight application, off-loading serious processing to other platforms (e.g. a hosted service or an EC2 instance).
More languages are coming soon! Google won't say which though :-). My money's on Java next.
This question has been fully answered. Which is good.
But one thing perhaps is worth mentioning.
The google app engine has a plugin for the eclipse ide which is a joy to work with.
If you already do your development with eclipse you are going to be so happy about that.
To deploy on the google app engine's web site all I need to do is click one little button - with the airplane logo - super.
Take a look the the sql game, it is very stable and actually pushed traffic limits at one point so that it was getting throttled by Google. I have seen nothing but good news about App Engine, other than hosting you app on servers someone else controls completely.
I used GAE to build a simple application which accepts some parameters, formats and send email. It was extremely simple and fast. I also made some performance benchmarks on the GAE datastore and memcache services (http://dbaspects.blogspot.com/2010/01/memcache-vs-datastore-on-google-app.html ). It is not that fast. My opinion is that GAE is serious platform which enforce certain methodology. I think it will evolve to the truly scalable platform, where bad practices simply not allowed.
I used GAE for my flash gaming site, Bearded Games. GAE is a great platform. I used Django templates which are so much easier than the old days of PHP. It comes with a great admin panel, and gives you really good logs. The datastore is different than a database like MySQL, but it's much easier to work with. Building the site was easy and straightforward and they have lots of helpful advice on the site.
I used GAE and Django to build a Facebook application. I used http://code.google.com/p/app-engine-patch as my starting point as it has Django 1.1 support. I didn't try to use any of the manage.py commands because I assumed they wouldn't work, but I didn't even look into it. The application had three models and also used pyfacebook, but that was the extent of the complexity. I'm in the process of building a much more complicated application which I'm starting to blog about on http://brianyamabe.com.