I have one Python script and I wants to convert in objective C.
from struct import *
data = [10000,10000,10000,10]
d = [int(i) for i in data]
print d
list = unpack('BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB',pack('>IIII', d[0], d[1], d[2], d[3]))
print list
Output
[10000, 10000, 10000, 10]
(0, 0, 39, 16, 0, 0, 39, 16, 0, 0, 39, 16, 0, 0, 0, 10)
I have did first int array conversion in objective C, But stuck at pack and unpack
Objective C for first part
NSArray *timouts = [NSArray arrayWithObjects:[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10000"],[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10000"],[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10000"],[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10"],nil];
NSMutableArray *ary = [NSMutableArray arrayWithCapacity:4];
NSInteger coutner = 0;
for (NSString *string in timouts)
{
int outVal;
NSScanner* scanner = [NSScanner scannerWithString:string];
[scanner scanInt:&outVal];
ary[coutner] = [NSString stringWithFormat:#"%d",outVal];
coutner++;
}
I have try to do so, But not much aware with Python scripting. Not got the way how pack and unpack works.
First of all I want to say that you should try to learn Objective-C on a better level. It is not too hard (esp. coming from Python, because both languages are dynamically typed). However, I will give you some advises to your Q.
Let's have a closer view to your code:
A.
You have:
NSArray *timouts = [NSArray arrayWithObjects:[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10000"],[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10000"],[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10000"],[NSString stringWithFormat:#"10"],nil];
I really do not see any benefit from converting all numbers to strings. Simply store numbers:
NSArray *timeOuts = #[#10000, #10000, #10000, #10];
#[] means "array literal", #x means NSNumber instance object.
B.
You can print out the list itself simply with NSLog():
NSLog( #"%#", timeOuts );
C.
You have to read instances of NSNumber, because you stored such instances:
NSMutableArray * bytes = [NSMutableArray arrayWithCapacity:4];
for (NSNumber *value in timeOuts) // Take out numbers
{
…
}
D.
Now to the hardest part: unpacking
Because you stored instances of NSNumber into the array, it is pretty easy to get the integer value:
NSMutableArray *bytes = [NSMutableArray arrayWithCapacity:4];
for (NSNumber *value in timeOuts) // Take out numbers
{
int intValue = [value intValue];
…
}
E.
You can "pack them" into a string with -stringWithFormat:. However, if I understand the log in your Q correct, you want to print out the single bytes of a value, not the whole value.
NSMutableArray *bytes = [NSMutableArray arrayWithCapacity:4];
for (NSNumber *value in timeOuts) // Take out numbers
{
int intValue = [value intValue];
for( int x = 0; x < 4; x++ )
{
int byte = intValue & 0xFF000000; // Mask out bit 0-23
[bytes addObject:#(byte)]; // Store byte
intValue <<= 8; // Shift up bit 0-23 to 8-31 for the next iteration
}
}
NSLog( #"%#", bytes );
z.
So we end up with this:
NSArray *timeOuts = #[#10000, #10000, #10000, #10];
NSLog( #"%#", timeOuts );
NSMutableArray *bytes = [NSMutableArray arrayWithCapacity:4];
for (NSNumber *value in timeOuts) // Take out numbers
{
int intValue = [value intValue];
for( int x = 0; x < 4; x++ )
{
int byte = intValue & 0xFF; // Mask out bit 8-31
[bytes addObject:#(byte)]; // Store byte
intValue >>= 8; // Shift down bit 8-31 to 0-23 for the next iteration
}
}
NSLog( #"%#", bytes );
If you really need to store the values as strings, let me know. I will edit my answer.
Related
I'm having successfully embedded a Python script into a C module. The Python script produces a multi-dimensional Numpy array. Whereas the entire calculation in python takes 9 ms, the final tolist() conversion in order to return it to C takes 4 ms alone. I would like to change that by passing the Numpy array as reference and do the iterations in C again. But I can't currently figure out, how this can be done.
There are a lot of samples around, which use the other way around: Passing a Numpy array to a C function which is called from Python, but this is not my use case.
Any pointer welcome.
Ok, it's a while ago but I solved it like so:
My python process delivers an array, containing one array, containing one array, containing N arrays of M floats each. The input is a JPEG image.
Unwrapping it like so:
int predict(PyObject *pyFunction, unsigned char *image_pointer, unsigned long image_len) {
int result = -1;
PyObject *pImage = NULL;
PyObject *pList = NULL;
pImage = PyBytes_FromStringAndSize((const char *)image_pointer, image_len);
if (!pImage) {
fprintf(stderr, "Cannot provide image to python 'predict'\n");
return result;
}
pList = PyObject_CallFunctionObjArgs(pyFunction, pImage, NULL);
Py_DECREF(pImage);
PyArrayObject *pPrediction = reinterpret_cast<PyArrayObject *>(pList);
if (!pPrediction) {
fprintf(stderr, "Cannot predict, for whatever reason\n");
return result;
}
if (PyArray_NDIM(pPrediction) != 4) {
fprintf(stderr, "Prediction failed, returned array with wrong dimensions\n");
} else {
RESULTPTR pResult = reinterpret_cast<RESULTPTR>(PyArray_DATA(pPrediction));
int len0 = PyArray_SHAPE(pPrediction)[0];
int len1 = PyArray_SHAPE(pPrediction)[1];
int len2 = PyArray_SHAPE(pPrediction)[2];
int len3 = PyArray_SHAPE(pPrediction)[3];
for (int i = 0; i < len0; i++) {
int offs1 = i * len1;
for (int j = 0; j < len1; j++) {
int offs2 = j * len2;
for (int k = 0; k < len2; k++) {
int offs3 = k * len3;
for (int l = 0; l < len3; l++) {
float f = (*pResult)[offs1 + offs2 + offs3 + l];
//printf("data: %.8f\n", f);
}
}
}
}
result = 0;
}
Py_XDECREF(pList);
return result;
}
HTH
I need to know how I would go about recreating a version of the int() function in Python so that I can fully understand it and create my own version with multiple bases that go past base 36. I can convert from a decimal to my own base (base 54, altered) just fine, but I need to figure out how to go from a string in my base's format to an integer (base 10).
Basically, I want to know how to go from my base, which I call base 54, to base 10. I don't need specifics, because if I have an example, I can work it out on my own. Unfortunately, I can't find anything on the int() function, though I know it has to be somewhere, since Python is open-source.
This is the closest I can find to it, but it doesn't provide source code for the function itself. Python int() test.
If you can help, thanks. If not, well, thanks for reading this, I guess?
You're not going to like this answer, but int(num, base) is defined in C (it's a builtin)
I went searching around and found it:
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/e42b705188271da108de42b55d9344642170aa2b/Objects/longobject.c
/* Parses an int from a bytestring. Leading and trailing whitespace will be
* ignored.
*
* If successful, a PyLong object will be returned and 'pend' will be pointing
* to the first unused byte unless it's NULL.
*
* If unsuccessful, NULL will be returned.
*/
PyObject *
PyLong_FromString(const char *str, char **pend, int base)
{
int sign = 1, error_if_nonzero = 0;
const char *start, *orig_str = str;
PyLongObject *z = NULL;
PyObject *strobj;
Py_ssize_t slen;
if ((base != 0 && base < 2) || base > 36) {
PyErr_SetString(PyExc_ValueError,
"int() arg 2 must be >= 2 and <= 36");
return NULL;
}
while (*str != '\0' && Py_ISSPACE(Py_CHARMASK(*str))) {
str++;
}
if (*str == '+') {
++str;
}
else if (*str == '-') {
++str;
sign = -1;
}
if (base == 0) {
if (str[0] != '0') {
base = 10;
}
else if (str[1] == 'x' || str[1] == 'X') {
base = 16;
}
else if (str[1] == 'o' || str[1] == 'O') {
base = 8;
}
else if (str[1] == 'b' || str[1] == 'B') {
base = 2;
}
else {
/* "old" (C-style) octal literal, now invalid.
it might still be zero though */
error_if_nonzero = 1;
base = 10;
}
}
if (str[0] == '0' &&
((base == 16 && (str[1] == 'x' || str[1] == 'X')) ||
(base == 8 && (str[1] == 'o' || str[1] == 'O')) ||
(base == 2 && (str[1] == 'b' || str[1] == 'B')))) {
str += 2;
/* One underscore allowed here. */
if (*str == '_') {
++str;
}
}
if (str[0] == '_') {
/* May not start with underscores. */
goto onError;
}
start = str;
if ((base & (base - 1)) == 0) {
int res = long_from_binary_base(&str, base, &z);
if (res < 0) {
/* Syntax error. */
goto onError;
}
}
else {
/***
Binary bases can be converted in time linear in the number of digits, because
Python's representation base is binary. Other bases (including decimal!) use
the simple quadratic-time algorithm below, complicated by some speed tricks.
First some math: the largest integer that can be expressed in N base-B digits
is B**N-1. Consequently, if we have an N-digit input in base B, the worst-
case number of Python digits needed to hold it is the smallest integer n s.t.
BASE**n-1 >= B**N-1 [or, adding 1 to both sides]
BASE**n >= B**N [taking logs to base BASE]
n >= log(B**N)/log(BASE) = N * log(B)/log(BASE)
The static array log_base_BASE[base] == log(base)/log(BASE) so we can compute
this quickly. A Python int with that much space is reserved near the start,
and the result is computed into it.
The input string is actually treated as being in base base**i (i.e., i digits
are processed at a time), where two more static arrays hold:
convwidth_base[base] = the largest integer i such that base**i <= BASE
convmultmax_base[base] = base ** convwidth_base[base]
The first of these is the largest i such that i consecutive input digits
must fit in a single Python digit. The second is effectively the input
base we're really using.
Viewing the input as a sequence <c0, c1, ..., c_n-1> of digits in base
convmultmax_base[base], the result is "simply"
(((c0*B + c1)*B + c2)*B + c3)*B + ... ))) + c_n-1
where B = convmultmax_base[base].
Error analysis: as above, the number of Python digits `n` needed is worst-
case
n >= N * log(B)/log(BASE)
where `N` is the number of input digits in base `B`. This is computed via
size_z = (Py_ssize_t)((scan - str) * log_base_BASE[base]) + 1;
below. Two numeric concerns are how much space this can waste, and whether
the computed result can be too small. To be concrete, assume BASE = 2**15,
which is the default (and it's unlikely anyone changes that).
Waste isn't a problem: provided the first input digit isn't 0, the difference
between the worst-case input with N digits and the smallest input with N
digits is about a factor of B, but B is small compared to BASE so at most
one allocated Python digit can remain unused on that count. If
N*log(B)/log(BASE) is mathematically an exact integer, then truncating that
and adding 1 returns a result 1 larger than necessary. However, that can't
happen: whenever B is a power of 2, long_from_binary_base() is called
instead, and it's impossible for B**i to be an integer power of 2**15 when
B is not a power of 2 (i.e., it's impossible for N*log(B)/log(BASE) to be
an exact integer when B is not a power of 2, since B**i has a prime factor
other than 2 in that case, but (2**15)**j's only prime factor is 2).
The computed result can be too small if the true value of N*log(B)/log(BASE)
is a little bit larger than an exact integer, but due to roundoff errors (in
computing log(B), log(BASE), their quotient, and/or multiplying that by N)
yields a numeric result a little less than that integer. Unfortunately, "how
close can a transcendental function get to an integer over some range?"
questions are generally theoretically intractable. Computer analysis via
continued fractions is practical: expand log(B)/log(BASE) via continued
fractions, giving a sequence i/j of "the best" rational approximations. Then
j*log(B)/log(BASE) is approximately equal to (the integer) i. This shows that
we can get very close to being in trouble, but very rarely. For example,
76573 is a denominator in one of the continued-fraction approximations to
log(10)/log(2**15), and indeed:
>>> log(10)/log(2**15)*76573
16958.000000654003
is very close to an integer. If we were working with IEEE single-precision,
rounding errors could kill us. Finding worst cases in IEEE double-precision
requires better-than-double-precision log() functions, and Tim didn't bother.
Instead the code checks to see whether the allocated space is enough as each
new Python digit is added, and copies the whole thing to a larger int if not.
This should happen extremely rarely, and in fact I don't have a test case
that triggers it(!). Instead the code was tested by artificially allocating
just 1 digit at the start, so that the copying code was exercised for every
digit beyond the first.
***/
twodigits c; /* current input character */
Py_ssize_t size_z;
Py_ssize_t digits = 0;
int i;
int convwidth;
twodigits convmultmax, convmult;
digit *pz, *pzstop;
const char *scan, *lastdigit;
char prev = 0;
static double log_base_BASE[37] = {0.0e0,};
static int convwidth_base[37] = {0,};
static twodigits convmultmax_base[37] = {0,};
if (log_base_BASE[base] == 0.0) {
twodigits convmax = base;
int i = 1;
log_base_BASE[base] = (log((double)base) /
log((double)PyLong_BASE));
for (;;) {
twodigits next = convmax * base;
if (next > PyLong_BASE) {
break;
}
convmax = next;
++i;
}
convmultmax_base[base] = convmax;
assert(i > 0);
convwidth_base[base] = i;
}
/* Find length of the string of numeric characters. */
scan = str;
lastdigit = str;
while (_PyLong_DigitValue[Py_CHARMASK(*scan)] < base || *scan == '_') {
if (*scan == '_') {
if (prev == '_') {
/* Only one underscore allowed. */
str = lastdigit + 1;
goto onError;
}
}
else {
++digits;
lastdigit = scan;
}
prev = *scan;
++scan;
}
if (prev == '_') {
/* Trailing underscore not allowed. */
/* Set error pointer to first underscore. */
str = lastdigit + 1;
goto onError;
}
/* Create an int object that can contain the largest possible
* integer with this base and length. Note that there's no
* need to initialize z->ob_digit -- no slot is read up before
* being stored into.
*/
double fsize_z = (double)digits * log_base_BASE[base] + 1.0;
if (fsize_z > (double)MAX_LONG_DIGITS) {
/* The same exception as in _PyLong_New(). */
PyErr_SetString(PyExc_OverflowError,
"too many digits in integer");
return NULL;
}
size_z = (Py_ssize_t)fsize_z;
/* Uncomment next line to test exceedingly rare copy code */
/* size_z = 1; */
assert(size_z > 0);
z = _PyLong_New(size_z);
if (z == NULL) {
return NULL;
}
Py_SIZE(z) = 0;
/* `convwidth` consecutive input digits are treated as a single
* digit in base `convmultmax`.
*/
convwidth = convwidth_base[base];
convmultmax = convmultmax_base[base];
/* Work ;-) */
while (str < scan) {
if (*str == '_') {
str++;
continue;
}
/* grab up to convwidth digits from the input string */
c = (digit)_PyLong_DigitValue[Py_CHARMASK(*str++)];
for (i = 1; i < convwidth && str != scan; ++str) {
if (*str == '_') {
continue;
}
i++;
c = (twodigits)(c * base +
(int)_PyLong_DigitValue[Py_CHARMASK(*str)]);
assert(c < PyLong_BASE);
}
convmult = convmultmax;
/* Calculate the shift only if we couldn't get
* convwidth digits.
*/
if (i != convwidth) {
convmult = base;
for ( ; i > 1; --i) {
convmult *= base;
}
}
/* Multiply z by convmult, and add c. */
pz = z->ob_digit;
pzstop = pz + Py_SIZE(z);
for (; pz < pzstop; ++pz) {
c += (twodigits)*pz * convmult;
*pz = (digit)(c & PyLong_MASK);
c >>= PyLong_SHIFT;
}
/* carry off the current end? */
if (c) {
assert(c < PyLong_BASE);
if (Py_SIZE(z) < size_z) {
*pz = (digit)c;
++Py_SIZE(z);
}
else {
PyLongObject *tmp;
/* Extremely rare. Get more space. */
assert(Py_SIZE(z) == size_z);
tmp = _PyLong_New(size_z + 1);
if (tmp == NULL) {
Py_DECREF(z);
return NULL;
}
memcpy(tmp->ob_digit,
z->ob_digit,
sizeof(digit) * size_z);
Py_DECREF(z);
z = tmp;
z->ob_digit[size_z] = (digit)c;
++size_z;
}
}
}
}
if (z == NULL) {
return NULL;
}
if (error_if_nonzero) {
/* reset the base to 0, else the exception message
doesn't make too much sense */
base = 0;
if (Py_SIZE(z) != 0) {
goto onError;
}
/* there might still be other problems, therefore base
remains zero here for the same reason */
}
if (str == start) {
goto onError;
}
if (sign < 0) {
Py_SIZE(z) = -(Py_SIZE(z));
}
while (*str && Py_ISSPACE(Py_CHARMASK(*str))) {
str++;
}
if (*str != '\0') {
goto onError;
}
long_normalize(z);
z = maybe_small_long(z);
if (z == NULL) {
return NULL;
}
if (pend != NULL) {
*pend = (char *)str;
}
return (PyObject *) z;
onError:
if (pend != NULL) {
*pend = (char *)str;
}
Py_XDECREF(z);
slen = strlen(orig_str) < 200 ? strlen(orig_str) : 200;
strobj = PyUnicode_FromStringAndSize(orig_str, slen);
if (strobj == NULL) {
return NULL;
}
PyErr_Format(PyExc_ValueError,
"invalid literal for int() with base %d: %.200R",
base, strobj);
Py_DECREF(strobj);
return NULL;
}
If you want to defined it in C, go ahead and try using this- if not, you'll have to write it yourself
If I write a function accepting a single unsigned integer (0 - 0xFFFFFFFF), I can use:
uint32_t myInt;
if(!PyArg_ParseTuple(args, "I", &myInt))
return NULL;
And then from python, I can pass an int or long.
But what if I get passed a list of integers?
uint32_t* myInts;
PyObject* pyMyInts;
PyArg_ParseTuple(args, "O", &pyMyInts);
if (PyList_Check(intsObj)) {
size_t n = PyList_Size(v);
myInts = calloc(n, sizeof(*myInts));
for(size_t i = 0; i < n; i++) {
PyObject* item = PyList_GetItem(pyMyInts, i);
// What function do I want here?
if(!GetAUInt(item, &myInts[i]))
return NULL;
}
}
// cleanup calloc'd array on exit, etc
Specifically, my issue is with dealing with:
Lists containing a mixture of ints and longs
detecting overflow when assigning to the the uint32
You could create a tuple and use the same method you used for a single argument. On the C side, the tuple objects are not really immutable, so it wouldn't be to much trouble.
Also PyLong_AsUnsignedLong could work for you. It accepts int and long objects and raises an error otherwise. But if sizeof(long) is bigger than 4, you might need to check for an upper-bound overflow yourself.
static int
GetAUInt(PyObject *pylong, uint32_t *myint) {
static unsigned long MAX = 0xffffffff;
unsigned long l = PyLong_AsUnsignedLong(pylong);
if (l == -1 && PyErr_Occurred() || l > MAX) {
PyErr_SetString(PyExc_OverflowError, "can't convert to uint32_t");
return false;
}
*myint = (uint32_t) l;
return true;
}
Looking for a string to integer hash function with values in the range of mysql bigint unsigned datatype (0 <= n <= 18446744073709551615). Converting md5/sha1 to integer with the base of 16 does not fit this requirement.
Java uses a rolling hash that should work for you
From java.lang.String :
public int hashCode() {
int h = hash;
if (h == 0 && count > 0) {
int off = offset;
char val[] = value;
int len = count;
for (int i = 0; i < len; i++) {
h = 31*h + val[off++];
}
hash = h;
}
return h;
}
The idea is to calculate the hash as :
s[0]*31^(n-1) + s[1]*31^(n-2) + ... + s[n-1]
To deal with overflow, you can add a step where the hash is checked against 18446744073709551615 and if it is larger take the mod of the hash and 18446744073709551615.
If I have a list:
a = [1,2,3,4]
and then add 4 elements using extend
a.extend(range(5,10))
I get
a = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
How does python do this? does it create a new list and copy the elements across or does it make 'a' bigger? just concerned that using extend will gobble up memory. I'am also asking as there is a comment in some code I'm revising that extending by 10000 x 100 is quicker than doing it in one block of 1000000.
Python's documentation on it says:
Extend the list by appending all the
items in the given list; equivalent to
a[len(a):] = L.
As to "how" it does it behind the scene, you really needn't concern yourself about it.
L.extend(M) is amortized O(n) where n=len(m), so excessive copying is not usually a problem. The times it can be a problem is when there is not enough space to extend into, so a copy is performed. This is a problem when the list is large and you have limits on how much time is acceptable for an individual extend call.
That is the point when you should look for a more efficient datastructure for your problem. I find it is rarely a problem in practice.
Here is the relevant code from CPython, you can see that extra space is allocated when the list is extended to avoid excessive copying
static PyObject *
listextend(PyListObject *self, PyObject *b)
{
PyObject *it; /* iter(v) */
Py_ssize_t m; /* size of self */
Py_ssize_t n; /* guess for size of b */
Py_ssize_t mn; /* m + n */
Py_ssize_t i;
PyObject *(*iternext)(PyObject *);
/* Special cases:
1) lists and tuples which can use PySequence_Fast ops
2) extending self to self requires making a copy first
*/
if (PyList_CheckExact(b) || PyTuple_CheckExact(b) || (PyObject *)self == b) {
PyObject **src, **dest;
b = PySequence_Fast(b, "argument must be iterable");
if (!b)
return NULL;
n = PySequence_Fast_GET_SIZE(b);
if (n == 0) {
/* short circuit when b is empty */
Py_DECREF(b);
Py_RETURN_NONE;
}
m = Py_SIZE(self);
if (list_resize(self, m + n) == -1) {
Py_DECREF(b);
return NULL;
}
/* note that we may still have self == b here for the
* situation a.extend(a), but the following code works
* in that case too. Just make sure to resize self
* before calling PySequence_Fast_ITEMS.
*/
/* populate the end of self with b's items */
src = PySequence_Fast_ITEMS(b);
dest = self->ob_item + m;
for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
PyObject *o = src[i];
Py_INCREF(o);
dest[i] = o;
}
Py_DECREF(b);
Py_RETURN_NONE;
}
it = PyObject_GetIter(b);
if (it == NULL)
return NULL;
iternext = *it->ob_type->tp_iternext;
/* Guess a result list size. */
n = _PyObject_LengthHint(b, 8);
if (n == -1) {
Py_DECREF(it);
return NULL;
}
m = Py_SIZE(self);
mn = m + n;
if (mn >= m) {
/* Make room. */
if (list_resize(self, mn) == -1)
goto error;
/* Make the list sane again. */
Py_SIZE(self) = m;
}
/* Else m + n overflowed; on the chance that n lied, and there really
* is enough room, ignore it. If n was telling the truth, we'll
* eventually run out of memory during the loop.
*/
/* Run iterator to exhaustion. */
for (;;) {
PyObject *item = iternext(it);
if (item == NULL) {
if (PyErr_Occurred()) {
if (PyErr_ExceptionMatches(PyExc_StopIteration))
PyErr_Clear();
else
goto error;
}
break;
}
if (Py_SIZE(self) < self->allocated) {
/* steals ref */
PyList_SET_ITEM(self, Py_SIZE(self), item);
++Py_SIZE(self);
}
else {
int status = app1(self, item);
Py_DECREF(item); /* append creates a new ref */
if (status < 0)
goto error;
}
}
/* Cut back result list if initial guess was too large. */
if (Py_SIZE(self) < self->allocated)
list_resize(self, Py_SIZE(self)); /* shrinking can't fail */
Py_DECREF(it);
Py_RETURN_NONE;
error:
Py_DECREF(it);
return NULL;
}
PyObject *
_PyList_Extend(PyListObject *self, PyObject *b)
{
return listextend(self, b);
}
It works as if it were defined like this
def extend(lst, iterable):
for x in iterable:
lst.append(x)
This mutates the list, it does not create a copy of it.
Depending on the underlying implementation, append and extend may trigger the list to copy its own data structures but this is normal and nothing to worry about. For example array-based implementations typically grow the underlying array exponentially and need to copy the list of elements when they do so.
How does python do this? does it create a new list and copy the elements across or does it make 'a' bigger?
>>> a = ['apples', 'bananas']
>>> b = a
>>> a is b
True
>>> c = ['apples', 'bananas']
>>> a is c
False
>>> a.extend(b)
>>> a
['apples', 'bananas', 'apples', 'bananas']
>>> b
['apples', 'bananas', 'apples', 'bananas']
>>> a is b
True
>>>
It does not create a new list object, it extends a. This is self-evident from the fact that you don't make an assigment. Python will not magically replace your objects with other objects. :-)
How the memory allocation happens inside the list object is implementation dependent.