Question about the policy of installing third-party binary dependencies missing from pypi.
There is a package distributed via pypi, depending on the set of libraries from the debian repository of debian packages (apt install).
Without these libraries, the package will not work / install. How to install / ask the user to install these libraries.
What is community policy on this issue?
The most correct way is to distribute your packages in the proper system package format — rpm, deb, whatever. Those formats allow to declare other system dependencies so that package managers automatically resolve dependencies version and install the dependencies.
To create a deb package from a Python one use https://pypi.org/project/stdeb/.
If you want to distribute Python package from PyPI there is no way for the package to declare system dependencies. The only way to handle this is to document dependencies and let the user handle them.
I have a python package that requires the python development libraries and headers to be installed. Is there any way to easily install these in setup.py install and pip install?
The closest thing I have come up with so far is to either just tell users to install them manually, individually do apt, yum, etc installs in setup.py, or manually download and build the python libs, which would still likely require specialization depending on OS.
I've had a quick look around, but because of terminology like dependencies and packages being used in different ways, it's quite tricky to pin down an answer.
I'm building a mixed-language source (Fortran, some C and Python) and the Fortran calls a Python script which depends on the networkx Python package in the PyPI. Normally, I just have networkx installed anyway, so it isn't a problem for me when rebuilding.
However, for distribution, I want the best way to:
Install pip or equivalent, if it is not installed.
Possibly install virtualenv and create a virtual environment, if appropriate.
Download and install networkx using the --user option with pip.
Is there a standard way? Or should I just use CMake dependencies with custom commands that install pip etc.?
it depends. for "manual" install, you definitely should detect if all required (to build) tools are installed, and issue an error if they don't. then use execute_process() to run pip and whatever you want.
from other side, if you are going to produce a real package for some particular Linux, you just pack your binaries and require (via corresponding syntax of particular package format like *.rpm or *.deb that your package depends on some other packages. so, you can be sure that they will be installed w/ (or even before) your package.
I've a strange problem with co-existence of debian package and pip package. For example, I've python-requests (deb version 0.8.2) installed. Then when i install the requests (pip version 2.2.1), the system only apply the deb version instead of pip new version. Does anyone can resolve this problem? Thank you in advance.
In regard to installing python packages by system packages and pip, you have to define clear plan.
Personally, I follow these rules:
Install only minimal set of python packages by system installation packages
There I include supervisord in case, I am not on too old system.
Do not install pip or virtualenv by system package.
Especially with pip in last year there were many situations, when system packages were far back behind what was really needed.
Use Virtualenv and prefer to install packages (by pip) in here
This will keep your system wide Python rather clean. It takes a moment to get used, but it is rather easy to follow, especially, if you use virtualenvwrapper which helps a lot during development.
Prepare conditions for quick installation of compiled packages
Some packages require compilation and this often fails on missing dependencies.
Such packages include e.g. lxml, pyzmq, pyyaml.
Make sure, which ones you are going to use, prepare packages in the system and you are able to install them into virtualenv.
Fine-tuning speed of installation of compiled packages
There is great package format (usable by pip) called wheel. This allows to install a package (like lxml) to install on the same platform within fraction of a second (compared to minutes of compilation). See my answer at SO on this topic
A tweet reads:
Don't use easy_install, unless you
like stabbing yourself in the face.
Use pip.
Why use pip over easy_install? Doesn't the fault lie with PyPI and package authors mostly? If an author uploads crap source tarball (eg: missing files, no setup.py) to PyPI, then both pip and easy_install will fail. Other than cosmetic differences, why do Python people (like in the above tweet) seem to strongly favor pip over easy_install?
(Let's assume that we're talking about easy_install from the Distribute package, that is maintained by the community)
From Ian Bicking's own introduction to pip:
pip was originally written to improve on easy_install in the following ways
All packages are downloaded before installation. Partially-completed installation doesn’t occur as a result.
Care is taken to present useful output on the console.
The reasons for actions are kept track of. For instance, if a package is being installed, pip keeps track of why that package was required.
Error messages should be useful.
The code is relatively concise and cohesive, making it easier to use programmatically.
Packages don’t have to be installed as egg archives, they can be installed flat (while keeping the egg metadata).
Native support for other version control systems (Git, Mercurial and Bazaar)
Uninstallation of packages.
Simple to define fixed sets of requirements and reliably reproduce a set of packages.
Many of the answers here are out of date for 2015 (although the initially accepted one from Daniel Roseman is not). Here's the current state of things:
Binary packages are now distributed as wheels (.whl files)—not just on PyPI, but in third-party repositories like Christoph Gohlke's Extension Packages for Windows. pip can handle wheels; easy_install cannot.
Virtual environments (which come built-in with 3.4, or can be added to 2.6+/3.1+ with virtualenv) have become a very important and prominent tool (and recommended in the official docs); they include pip out of the box, but don't even work properly with easy_install.
The distribute package that included easy_install is no longer maintained. Its improvements over setuptools got merged back into setuptools. Trying to install distribute will just install setuptools instead.
easy_install itself is only quasi-maintained.
All of the cases where pip used to be inferior to easy_install—installing from an unpacked source tree, from a DVCS repo, etc.—are long-gone; you can pip install ., pip install git+https://.
pip comes with the official Python 2.7 and 3.4+ packages from python.org, and a pip bootstrap is included by default if you build from source.
The various incomplete bits of documentation on installing, using, and building packages have been replaced by the Python Packaging User Guide. Python's own documentation on Installing Python Modules now defers to this user guide, and explicitly calls out pip as "the preferred installer program".
Other new features have been added to pip over the years that will never be in easy_install. For example, pip makes it easy to clone your site-packages by building a requirements file and then installing it with a single command on each side. Or to convert your requirements file to a local repo to use for in-house development. And so on.
The only good reason that I know of to use easy_install in 2015 is the special case of using Apple's pre-installed Python versions with OS X 10.5-10.8. Since 10.5, Apple has included easy_install, but as of 10.10 they still don't include pip. With 10.9+, you should still just use get-pip.py, but for 10.5-10.8, this has some problems, so it's easier to sudo easy_install pip. (In general, easy_install pip is a bad idea; it's only for OS X 10.5-10.8 that you want to do this.) Also, 10.5-10.8 include readline in a way that easy_install knows how to kludge around but pip doesn't, so you also want to sudo easy_install readline if you want to upgrade that.
Another—as of yet unmentioned—reason for favoring pip is because it is the new hotness and will continue to be used in the future.
The infographic below—from the Current State of Packaging section in the The Hitchhiker's Guide to Packaging v1.0—shows that setuptools/easy_install will go away in the future.
Here's another infographic from distribute's documentation showing that Setuptools and easy_install will be replaced by the new hotness—distribute and pip. While pip is still the new hotness, Distribute merged with Setuptools in 2013 with the release of Setuptools v0.7.
Two reasons, there may be more:
pip provides an uninstall command
if an installation fails in the middle, pip will leave you in a clean state.
REQUIREMENTS files.
Seriously, I use this in conjunction with virtualenv every day.
QUICK DEPENDENCY MANAGEMENT TUTORIAL, FOLKS
Requirements files allow you to create a snapshot of all packages that have been installed through pip. By encapsulating those packages in a virtualenvironment, you can have your codebase work off a very specific set of packages and share that codebase with others.
From Heroku's documentation https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/python
You create a virtual environment, and set your shell to use it. (bash/*nix instructions)
virtualenv env
source env/bin/activate
Now all python scripts run with this shell will use this environment's packages and configuration. Now you can install a package locally to this environment without needing to install it globally on your machine.
pip install flask
Now you can dump the info about which packages are installed with
pip freeze > requirements.txt
If you checked that file into version control, when someone else gets your code, they can setup their own virtual environment and install all the dependencies with:
pip install -r requirements.txt
Any time you can automate tedium like this is awesome.
pip won't install binary packages and isn't well tested on Windows.
As Windows doesn't come with a compiler by default pip often can't be used there. easy_install can install binary packages for Windows.
UPDATE: setuptools has absorbed distribute as opposed to the other way around, as some thought. setuptools is up-to-date with the latest distutils changes and the wheel format. Hence, easy_install and pip are more or less on equal footing now.
Source: http://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/merge-faq.html#why-setuptools-and-not-distribute-or-another-name
As an addition to fuzzyman's reply:
pip won't install binary packages and isn't well tested on Windows.
As Windows doesn't come with a compiler by default pip often can't be
used there. easy_install can install binary packages for Windows.
Here is a trick on Windows:
you can use easy_install <package> to install binary packages to avoid building a binary
you can use pip uninstall <package> even if you used easy_install.
This is just a work-around that works for me on windows.
Actually I always use pip if no binaries are involved.
See the current pip doku: http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/other-tools.html#pip-compared-to-easy-install
I will ask on the mailing list what is planned for that.
Here is the latest update:
The new supported way to install binaries is going to be wheel!
It is not yet in the standard, but almost. Current version is still an alpha: 1.0.0a1
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/wheel
http://wheel.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
I will test wheel by creating an OS X installer for PySide using wheel instead of eggs. Will get back and report about this.
cheers - Chris
A quick update:
The transition to wheel is almost over. Most packages are supporting wheel.
I promised to build wheels for PySide, and I did that last summer. Works great!
HINT:
A few developers failed so far to support the wheel format, simply because they forget to
replace distutils by setuptools.
Often, it is easy to convert such packages by replacing this single word in setup.py.
Just met one special case that I had to use easy_install instead of pip, or I have to pull the source codes directly.
For the package GitPython, the version in pip is too old, which is 0.1.7, while the one from easy_install is the latest which is 0.3.2.rc1.
I'm using Python 2.7.8. I'm not sure about the underlay mechanism of easy_install and pip, but at least the versions of some packages may be different from each other, and sometimes easy_install is the one with newer version.
easy_install GitPython