Run same python code in two terminals, will them interfere each other? - python

I have a python script which takes a while to finish its executing depending on the passed argument. So if I run them from two terminals with different arguments, do they get their own version of the code? I can't see two .pyc files being generated.
Terminal 1 runs: python prog.py 1000 > out_1000.out
Before the script running on terminal 1 terminate, i start running an another; thus terminal 2 runs: python prog.py 100 > out_100.out
Or basically my question is could they interfere with each other?

If you are writing the output to the same file in disk, then yes, it will be overwritten. However, it seems that you're actually printing to the stdout and then redirect it to a file. So that is not the case here.
Now answer to your question is simple: there is no interaction between two different executions of the same code. When you execute a program or a script OS will load the code to the memory and execute it and subsequent changes to code has nothing to do with the code that is already running. Technically a program that is running is called a process. Also when you run a code on two different terminals there will be two different processes on the OS one for each of them and there is no way for two process to interfere unless you explicitly do that (IPC or inter-process communication) which you are doing here.
So in summary you can run your code simultaneously on different terminals they will be completely independent.

Each Python interpreter process is independent. How the script reacts to itself being run multiple times depends on the exact code in use, but in general they should not interfere.

.pyc file reference http://effbot.org/pyfaq/how-do-i-create-a-pyc-file.htm
Python automatically compiles your script to compiled code, so called
byte code, before running it. When a module is imported for the first
time, or when the source is more recent than the current compiled
file, a .pyc file containing the compiled code will usually be created
in the same directory as the .py file.
If you afraid your code get overwritten due to whatever mistake, you should learn to put your code under VERSION CONTROL. Register github and use git to do that.
bigger sign ">" will send the output to the right handler. It you specify file name, it will push the output to that file name. Even in different terminal, if you run the code inside the same folder, use the ">" point to SAME file name, the file on the right of the ">" definitely get overwrite.
Program SOURCE CODE ARE NOT mutable during execution. Unless you acquire high level program hacking skill.
Each program will run inside its "execution workspace". Unless you make a code that tap into same resources(like change same file,shared reources ), otherwise there is no interference. (except if one exhaust all CPU, Memory resources, the second one will be interfere, but that is other story)

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running command line in multiple running processes from python

I'm not sure if what I'm wanting to do is possible, but:
I have a python script (lets call it PY) that calls a batch script to start a tool in terminal mode (lets call it A). This tool gets passed a starting script (tcl script) that sets up its environment and launches a second tool (lets call it B). The two tools communicate over a TCP connection locally.
My question is, with these two programs running (A and B), can I switch back to the python script to run commands in either A or B's TCL interface?
The scripts look sort of like this:
#python PY
def ReadConigAndSetup():
#read some data
...
#run bat
subprocess.run("./some_bat.bat some_data_args")
#bat start program A and pass it a startup script
some_program_A -mode tcl -source ./some_source.tcl
#tcl some_source.tcl
setup environment
open TCP port
start program B
#program B setup tcl
some more setup
after program B has run I'd like to be able to run more commands in program B from python as parsing some of the config files is much easier in the python environment.
The answer is “it depends on the details”.
There's no reason in principle why the program being called can't work fine this way, provided the subprocess relinquishes control back (which it might or might not), but launching complex programs via a BAT file is adding an extra layer of complexity so you might want to think about whether you can simplify a bit there.
If the program running the Tcl code doesn't terminate, things get trickier. This is an area where the details are critical; Tcl code can be written to loop indefinitely — it's a programming language so of course it can be told to be annoying if you insist — and the program being controlled could also decide to loop indefinitely of its own accord, which can happen particularly with GUI applications as the looping is where the user is interacting with the GUI. On Windows, many GUI applications run disconnected from the terminal (whether they do this is a compile-time option) and waiting for them to finish can be quite annoying.
It's possible to run multiple subprocesses at once using subprocess.Popen. Be very careful if you do this. It's possible to get into deadlocks (though that depends a lot on what the subprocesses are doing). It's probably easier to just launch each subprocess from its own thread… but then you're dealing with threads and that's also complicated.

Running a python script and changing git branch

I am trying to find ways to make better use of my time while programming.
I have a python script that does some heavy work (it can take hours) to finish. Now, most of the work it does is network related, so i have plenty of cpu resources to spare.
If the script was a C binary executable, it would be fine to git checkout onto a different branch and do extra work, I could even modify the binary in disk as it has been copied to ram, so until it finishes running I won't affect program output.
But python scripts are translated, not compiled. What happens if I start tampering with the source file, can i corrupt the programs output, or is the text file and associated imports copied to RAM, allowing me to tamper with the source with no risk of changing the behaviour of the running program?
In general, if you have a single Python file which you run as a script, you're fine. When you run the file, it is compiled into bytecode which is then executed. You can change the original script at this point and nothing breaks.
However, we can deliberately break it by writing some horrible but legal code like this:
horrible.py:
from time import sleep
sleep(10)
import silly
silly.thing()
silly.py:
def thing():
print("Wow!")
You can run horrible.py and while it is running you can edit silly.py on disk to make it do something else. When silly.py is finally imported, the updated version will be loaded.
A workaround is to put all your imports at the top of the file, which you probably do anyway.
When a python program is run it is compiled (kinda, more like translated) into a .pyc file that is then run by the python interpreter. When you change a file it should NOT affect the code if it is already running.
Here is a related stackoverflow answer. What will happen if I modify a Python script while it's running?
Why not have another working directory where you make your modifications? Is there a lot of ancillary data or something that makes it hard to set up a working directory? I.e. if your working directory is A, git clone A B, and then work in B. When you're done, you can pull the changes back from B to A:
git remote add B ../B
git pull B master

Python: Is it safe to run a single python script by multiple interpreters?

I have a long-running python script script.py.
Will it cause any issues if I invoke that script one-after the another through terminal:
python script.py -----first invocation
python script.py -----second invocation before the first gets over.
Since python is a interpreted language, will there be any interference between these two scripts?
Or is it safer to make a copy of the script and then run it?
That depends entirely on what the script does.
In the simplest sense, the answer is no - though the two invocations run the same code, they don't inherently share any state and they can run side by side. Just like any program on your computer, ( for example, bash shell in separate terminals ), independent invocations have their own process space.
The only case your scripts might interfere with each other is if they both use shared resources. For example, if script.py created a file called /tmp/state.py then obviously the two invocations would conflict.
There is no danger from the source code; each invocation will read the file separately, allocate its own local variables, etc. However, there may be interference if the script uses any external references, such as writing to a common file.

Can i run two copies of a python program?

Let's say I have a python script called scr.py. Running python scr.py creates a scr.pyc file which is interpreted by Python. Now, let's say I make a change in scr.py while it is running, and then in another terminal window, I run python scr.py again. What happens? Does the original scr.pyc file get overwritten? Are there any problems that might occur? Could you run two slightly different copies of the same file at the same time?
Yes, it will try to overwrite .pyc file with the new version. But this won't affect the first program unless explicit module reload is called, in it because the module is loaded into memory.
OTOH, for example, printing stack for an exception needs reading source file, and, if it's changed, wrong lines will be printed. So this replacing on the fly is recommended only when module is properly reloaded just after this.

Python outputs only after script has finished in Komodo Edit

Forgive me if it's a silly question. I'm new to Python and scripting languages. Now I'm using Komodo Edit to code and run Python programs. Each time I run it, I have to wait until the program finished execution to see my "print" results in the middle. I'm wondering if it's possible to see realtime outputs as in a console. Maybe it is caused by some preference in Komodo?
Another question is that I know in the interpreter, when I store some variables it will remember what I stored, like in a Matlab workspace. But in Komodo Edit, every time the program runs from the beginning and store no temporary variables for debugging. For example if I need to read in some large file and do some operations, every time I have to read it in again which takes a lot of time.
Is there a way to achieve instant output or temporary variable storage without typing every line into the interpreter directly, when using other environments like Komodo?
The Python output is realtime.
If your output is not realtime, this is likely an artefact of Komodo Edit. Run your script outside of Komodo.
And Python, as any programming language, starts from scratch when you start it. How would it otherwise work?
If you want a interpreter-like situation you can use import pdb;pdb.set_trace() in your script. That will give you an interpreter prompt for debugging.

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